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Rock on!!

As PVW has noted, even if we accept all of Nan's claims about U.S. actions in Ukraine (she has conveniently established that these need not be factual), it still does not justify Putin's War.

drummerboy said:

GoSlugs said:

mtierney said:

What happened on university campuses across the country by undereducated “students” - the generation of kids who were denied high school normalcy and proms and  graduations, and attended classes in a vacuum on Zoom — and who revealed themselves to be  as dumb as rocks in understanding the history of the USA and any other country for that matter.

Your posts here clearly demonstrate that it is you who in undereducated, not the students. You literally spend your days posting factual distortions, misunderstandings and out right lies.

yeah, that comment by mt reveals so much. 

She blames a few months of Zoom classes for an "undereducated" generation of students. She's repeated this talking point many times already.

mt, please tell us how they're dumb as rocks regarding history? What do they get wrong that apparently you think that you get right?

Why do you hate these kids so much? They're protesting the deaths of 10's of thousands of innocent civilians that the US is complicit in. Don't they deserve some credit for that? Even if you don't approve of very tactic?

Why do you think there are "outside agitators"? The right always blames protests they don't agree with on outside actors? But has there ever been any proof of their allegations? I think "never" is the right answer there.

Can you do some independent thinking here? Use some compassion and empathy instead of mindlessly repeating talking points?

there are a couple of things we can stipulate to. First, that Oct 7 was an atrocity worthy of outrage and strict condemnation. Second, there is no doubt a segment of the pro-Palestinian demonstrations that is anti-semitic (no doubt there is also a segment of pro-Israel supporters who are anti-semitic as well. Unfortunately there's a lot of anti-semitism in this country all around).

but the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians, mostly women and children and the resulting humanitarian crisis is its own atrocity. The vast majority of people protesting just want the mass killings and maiming to stop.

got the QB with the hints today. Did not need the Buddy however.

I have not really been following this thread but thought I would let people know that the prosecution witness who testified today reading Trump's tweets, Georgia Longstreet, is a graduate of Columbia High School. Evidently she is working for DA Braggs office and that was one of her assignments. My daughter realized it right away because she graduated with Longstreet, and is covering the trial for Bloomberg. Small world it is!

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It's ok -- at some point in the future, someone on this thread might say something you find upsetting. In the face of such an existential threat to MOL, we understand you had no choice but to try and destroy this thread.

Just 2 more episodes and Young Sheldon is finished. Last night's show was a sad surprise to me. Next week will soften the ending. I will miss the great cast but there will be something in the fall. Especially enjoy the grandmother played by Annie Potts who I remember from that great show Designing Women.

nan said:

Facts don't always tell the whole story.   Sometimes the whole story makes the facts irrelevant. 

Jamie,

Can I make this my signature line for every post I make?

DaveSchmidt said:

tjohn said:

Now I feel like we have been overly hard on Germany for the invasions that opened two world wars.

It’s impossible to read Tuchman without rooting for Germany against the existential threat it felt it faced.

To be fair, Germany was in a difficult position with a revanchist France on one side and an ever-expanding Russian Empire on the other.

Germany certainly made poor choices in 1914.  As Tuchman notes, one of the most fascinating "what ifs" of the 20th Century is this:

What if Germany had defended against France without invading any countries and had, instead, focused on Russia?

Russia would have been knocked out of the war and would have lost a good deal of the Russian Empire.  Nazi Germany would not have come to pass.  We wouldn't recognize the world of today if in this alternative history.